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PostSubject: Barrel replacements   Thu Aug 25, 2011 3:37 am

I've been playing AEoD since v3. Thus you can tell I'm quite interested and I can skip this whole section of praising you all---let's say you're all just great, have done a great job, and I'm looking forward to seeing more.

After playing with Oblige, with barrels setting put to max, I've noticed how cool it is when some shot you have dodged blasts something behind you. Feels like being a real hero, running from explosions. (Also feels a little bit like Descent level exit sequence.)

Have you thought about replacing barrels with other stuff? E.g. other barrels, CRTs (though why would they explode), huge unusable gas canisters, alien pods (which would spit spores), glass constructs (which would spawn sharp debris), anything that doesn't move by itself but can be painful if destroyed.
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PostSubject: Re: Barrel replacements   Thu Aug 25, 2011 6:42 am

I approve of this idea. Now you just need to convince DBThanatos, because he's the boss.

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PostSubject: Re: Barrel replacements   Thu Aug 25, 2011 1:06 pm

Is actually a good idea, the only thing is that i dont have resources for that.

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PostSubject: Re: Barrel replacements   Thu Aug 25, 2011 4:06 pm

DB did u see my pic
i tried it didnt work so thats why i posted u a pic
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PostSubject: Re: Barrel replacements   Fri Aug 26, 2011 3:52 am

Stop posting in multiple threads about the same issue! you're completely derailing this thread for no reason. Do it again and you will get a warning.

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PostSubject: Re: Barrel replacements   Fri Aug 26, 2011 6:53 am

DBThanatos wrote:
the only thing is that i dont have resources for that.

To begin with, there were many different versions of barrels throughout the sprite era games. There were even different barrels in Doom projects. Even ĈoD used different barrels in different incarnations (or is it just me?).
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PostSubject: Re: Barrel replacements   Mon Aug 29, 2011 4:04 pm

AEoD has used only 2 barrels. The original doom's and the "xaser barrels" which are the ones you see since v4 i think.

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To begin with, there were many different versions of barrels throughout the sprite era games.
This is basically saying go through years of games hunting the barrel graphics. I dont own every single sprite based game.

I realize there have been a ton of barrels through games, but what I mean by "I dont have resources for that" is the fact that I dont have the sprites, nor I will go doom-mod hunting to find different looking barrels. You have a suggestion about some barrels for us to add? post the link to the mod that contains them or the sprites themselves. Otherwise, suggesting us to go looking through tousands of sprites of god knows how many mods, or of the games we do have, is a bit far fetched (Build games being the worst, since their ART files sorting is nothing but a horrendous mess)

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"Seven sixteenths of one inch: That's the distance you'd have to move your pinky in order to not sound like an idiot." - maddox
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PostSubject: Re: Barrel replacements   Tue Aug 30, 2011 12:57 am

I see your point; if at any time I happen to stumble upon interesting barrel-like stuff, I will be sure to come here and suggest it.

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PostSubject: Re: Barrel replacements   Tue Aug 30, 2011 7:16 am

That's much better. Chances of things being implemented will go farther if you take the initiative yourself to do them and submit them as a feature-under-review.

It's just like Zdoom itself. Code submissions that work will indeed be added with a far higher chance over just suggestions, usually whenever Graf gets time to put them in. The reason? The work's already done and they can implement it off the fly so long as they have some form of proof of it working. Sure it may take him a couple of months but he at least implements them at intervals. Wink

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"My grandmother could beat the game if she saved as much as you do!" - Postal Dude
"Float... They aaaaaall float! And when you're down here with me, fat boy! YOU... float... too!" - Pennywise, the Dancing Clown
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PostSubject: Re: Barrel replacements   Mon Oct 10, 2011 4:23 am

OK, here's some ideas I've gathered. These are mostly about what's already at hand.

Heretic's Pods
(original)
[vanilla]

Toxic Heretic's Pods
(translated to darker green)
[leave a toxic cloud]

Disease Heretic's Pods
(translated to rotten red)
[launch +HOSTILE minor wasps similar to those spawned by Defile spell]

Meatballs
(h-pods translated to red)
[no actual damage. only destroy other barrel-type things to prevent breaking chain explosions. may also leave heart.]

Enormous Alien Combustible Lemons
(you know it better =)
[no idea, but apparently you may have =]

Dangerous Doom Barrel
(translated to red goop)
[leave a red upward-drifting ripper cloud with minor damage that stays in air for a second]

Flammable Doom Barrel
(translated to grey goop)
[explode like an igniting grenade of Mini-Missile Launcher or an igniting bolt of magic crossbow]

Empty Doom Barrel
(goop translated to inner surface of barrel)
[no actual damage. only destroy other barrel-type things to prevent breaking chain explosions. may also leave random lesser ammo pickup.]

Unstable Station
(no idea for sprites ATM)
[leave an EMP explosion like Tesla Cannon alt-fire]

Omoibarrel
(translated to tiny blue with purple goop)
[leave a Redeemer warhead blast and a life seed]

More may come later.
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PostSubject: Re: Barrel replacements   Mon Oct 10, 2011 1:00 pm

Unstable Station sprites idea: scaled down translated NME with sparkles.

Another idea:

Half-Life Heretic's Pod
(translated to teal)
[explodes like Gonarch's toxic ball]
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PostSubject: Re: Barrel replacements   Mon Oct 10, 2011 1:57 pm

Well, actually. Im liking those ideas. Let's see. Time to rip the heretic pod and start experimenting.

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"Because now, all you see in AEoD was either ripped, processed and/or coded by the AEoD team (or direct contributions FOR AEoD). It might be a ripfest, but is OUR ripfest." -DBT about AEoD v6
"Seven sixteenths of one inch: That's the distance you'd have to move your pinky in order to not sound like an idiot." - maddox
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PostSubject: Re: Barrel replacements   Mon Oct 10, 2011 9:07 pm

Plutonium Barrel.

Explodes like a Redeemer projectile. Rare.

Yeah.
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PostSubject: Re: Barrel replacements   Mon Oct 10, 2011 10:53 pm

Ribo Zurai wrote:
Plutonium Barrel.

Explodes like a Redeemer projectile. Rare.

Yeah.

Only if it deals a widespread 30 damage will I approve of this. I.e. anything within 2048 will be hurt for 30 hitpoints, but that's the maximum.

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"And one for Bobo the Space Monkey!" - Postal Dude
"My grandmother could beat the game if she saved as much as you do!" - Postal Dude
"Float... They aaaaaall float! And when you're down here with me, fat boy! YOU... float... too!" - Pennywise, the Dancing Clown
"In Offline Gaming We Trust" - DBT & MC
"That truck is fucked." - FPS Russia
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PostSubject: Re: Barrel replacements   Tue Oct 11, 2011 12:06 am

A_Explode(30, 2048, 1, 1, 2000) is going to make a guest appearance Wink

Kinda reminds me of MDK's World's Smallest Nuclear Bomb.
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